Back packed 28-29 April 2018 with Boy Scouts preparing for Philmont. Tougher than any day we will have on our Philmont Trek. We backpacked from Pine Springs camp ground to Pine Top camp ground. Dropped packs and set up camp. We took day packs and completed the Bush Mountain Blue Ridge loop. We hauled in 6 liters each of water and used every bit of it. The map says 3.8 miles from the trail head to the intersection of Tejas and Bush Mountain trail. My Garmin said 4.3 miles when I checked both directions. Not sure that the map accounts for all the switch backs. We took three liters of water on the Bush Mountain to Blue Ridge loop. Definitely needed it for the young 14-year old scouts. The trail was rocky, especially clockwise to Bush Mountain. The trail got easier after we climbed down north side of Bush Mountain. The Tejas trail portion was shaded under pines and scenic.