Went in August so there wasn't many people out there. (Saw 2 breaking camp as I arrived). Trail maintenance has been out there recently, only two downed trees that need to be climbed over. Looks like the trail has been used by animals mostly. (lots of prints and scat). Overall it was a good hike, some nice views (A lot of burnt trees still from the Station fire). Don't know how this trail is rated moderate, the climb out is difficult. Dreaded hill loop in Whiting Ranch gets a hard rating and has 500ft less in elevation gain and is a shorter trail.