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Hoegees Campground Loop: Upper and Lower Winter Creek Trail Loop

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Chantry Flat Recreation Area

Hoegees Campground Loop: Upper and Lower Winter Creek Trail Loop is a 5.6 mile heavily trafficked loop trail located near Sierra Madre, California that features a river and is rated as moderate. The trail offers a number of activity options and is accessible year-round. Dogs are also able to use this trail.

Length 5.6 mi Elevation gain 1,433 ft Route type Loop
Dog friendly Hiking Mountain biking Nature trips Walking Running Forest Partially paved River Views Wild flowers Wildlife Bugs Rocky Fee
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Canyon has limited parking. The 3 lots all fill up early in the morning on weekends, although on weekdays there is usually a lot of space available. In case you find the lots completely filled, parking is allowed on the road, but each car MUST be entirely behind the white lane or it will be ticketed by the Forest Service, or towed if it blocks the road. Each car must also display a Forest Service Adventure Pass or it will be ticketed, whether it's on the road or in one of the lots. There is often parking available at the pack station for a $20.00 fee, and an Adventure Pass is not required to park there.

A national forest adventure pass is required. Fee is $5.00.

Angeles National Forest, (818) 899-1900

From the Foothill Freeway(210) in Arcadia, exit on Santa Anita Avenue and drive six miles north to its end at Chantry Flat. The trail begins across the road from the parking lot.

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Eric Velazquez
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The was a fun and moderately challenging trail with plenty of incline and obstacles to overcome. Definitely not for the beginner though as the inclines be fairly steep and the paths can come to a very narrow point along some of the cliffs. Plenty of bugs so beware and lack the bug spray. Plenty of shade for about 4/5 of the trail.

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Kay Bee
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Best trail here!

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Yutaro Okamiya
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Hiking

Path was closed today as well. Make sure to have a backup plan if you’re thinking of coming here.

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maria delfino
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We went today and found out that the road will be closed until Monday :(

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Chi Kim
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Hannah Cooper
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At 9am on a Tuesday morning the trailhead was more crowded than I’ve ever seen it. People were hiking in large groups and passing very closely to other groups with no regard for social distancing, and almost nobody was wearing a mask. Sought out a more remote hike instead.

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Janice Kang
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Went today (7/3/2020) but there was a sign saying “closed until further notice.”

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Rene Rodriguez
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This is a simple hike that you can add on a few miles to by hiking to waterfall. You do need an adventure pass to park in the lots or you can park down on the road a ways a down. I total with the extra trip to the fall is turned out to be 8 miles. Get there early to get a parking spot. I got there at 7 and the lot was almost full. Overall a nice hike that won’t leave you feeling sore the next day

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Shana Herlihy
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Julie Jenkins
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BackpackingFee

Great Campground. there is a small black bear that visits every night and takes food or backpacks or anything left out. if people keep miss using the campground by leaving food, cooking lots etc for the bear he will have to be removed. please take care of mother nature. everything is provided at the campground if people would just use common sense. also the campground is not marked correctly on the all trails app...it is on lower winter Creek not upper winter Creek. bear vault , picnic tables and fire pits. great backpack experience want to join a group to backpack Check out Backpacking, Camping & Hyking Addicts http://meetu.ps/c/4n2N4/KxFvT/d on Meetup

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Cara K
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Anthony Arvizu
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Counterclockwise is best way to do this, as it saves you going back up the fire-road and the last 2 miles or so are a nice stroll with amazing views. Awesome hiking loop for good 4.5ish mile loop I do with my dog. This route is way less busy as most people are going towards the falls, this path is a good climb mostly along the creek, and the water level is decent right now from recent rains. Have seen bears twice on this trail, both times about a half mile up this trail from the bottom of fire road, and have had passerby hikers warn me of bear sightings a couple other times Rarely see a garden type snake and there are some amazing huge falcons or hawks that zipping around Hogees campground in the tall trees.

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Derek Breaux
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HikingBugsFee

Awesome trail, we did this after Sturdevent Falls. One thing to note- about 3.5 miles in (counterclockwise, when the switchbacks after camp start), a solo hiker warned us that he had just spooked a mountain lion that was just off trail. We all know the wildlife is out there, just a reminder to keep aware of your surroundings and always respect the wilderness, no matter how accessible it is to us. Hike date 11/11.

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Sean Haworth
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RunningBugs

Great trail run. Will come back for camping

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Mike Freedman
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Gate was locked. Couldn’t get up the road on Santa Anita

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Trying Outside
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Absolutely beautiful hike. Came in at 7am, Saturday morning, and found parking right across from the gate. Camped overnight at Hoegees campground. There was hiking traffic til ~6pm and from then til ~7am it was just me. Because of the location it was pretty much nighttime by 6pm. It got right around 45 degrees, maybe a little colder? At 2am I heard some loud scratching/banging-type noises in the direction of my bear canister. I waited 10-15 seconds, but something was definitely trying to get in. Got out of my tent and shouted "Get out of here, bear" a few times and something ran off. Checked the canister in the morning and it definitely looked like claw marks from a bear paw were on it. If you're camping overnight make sure to bring a canister/bag and put any scented items inside (food, toiletries, bug spray). Also, there were lots of acorns dropping from the squirrels foraging in the trees! For the hike itself: I accidentally did this loop clockwise (enter Hoegees > exit Sturtevant), and completely agree with everyone that you should enter counter-clockwise, instead. That last 0.6 miles uphill is brutal! All things considered, still really excited to return in the future.

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Alexia Garcia
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Clinton Miller
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Shari Roulin
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Great hike and workout! Recommend doing this one counter-clockwise so as to avoid the steep, asphalt-road climb out to the parking lot. This means more uphill on the front side of the hike but it's a gradual climb and just enough to get your heart pumping. A few switchbacks after Hoegees camp, and then pretty much flat/downhill after that with really beautiful views of the canyon & mountains. Hike is along the stream bed all the way up, and nice and shady. Did not see bears at the camp, but saw a lot of evidence that they visit from people who left their trash behind. We picked up as much as we could but sadly there was just too much for two of us to handle. LNT, everyone!! $5 Adventure Pass or America the Beautiful Pass required to display for parking in lot or along road - the $20 fee is ONLY to park at the pack station (not in the lot, as others have suggested)! Be warned that the pit toilets at the trailhead are HORRIBLE, but there are flush toilets at the top - BYOTP (toilet paper).

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Hanna Javier
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great hike for beginners. I backpacked into hoegees the other day and camped over night. it's very peaceful and quiet, at least until the bears arrived. we saw 2 Mama's each with 2 cubs and a much larger solo bear. unfortunately someone from a previous day had left trash and the bears kept coming back. throughout the night they kept coming closer and closer to our camp. please pay attention to what you bring and the fact that you have to take everything out with you. there are no trash cans, bear boxes, bathrooms or running water other than the stream. remember if it comes in a wrapper you leave with that wrapper. if you are staying over night use a bear can. my brother and nephew were up all night dealing with curious bears because of carless campers. respect nature and do your research please

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Armando Aguirre
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I love this place because of the shade , and the many hiking trail options , I read some of the other reviews but some of the stuff is wrong , for instance , parking at the pack station is $20 not $5 as 1 review states and another review states that Hoegees trail camp is a good rest place when heading to the falls , WHAT FALLS???, I know the area pretty well and the only falls I know of is Sturtevant Falls , and if you go to the falls , you wouldn’t be anywhere near the campground , but that aside this is a great place to hike , and even better in cooler weather

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Jim Storment
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I love this trail. Mosquitoes are horrendous right now. Not so much for getting stung, but getting in your eyes, nose, and mouth.

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Jane Evancio
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HikingBugsRocky

Great trail with lots of pure silence

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Timothy Knight
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BackpackingBugs

This is a great beginner backpack for those learning how to take to the trail. We take our Boy Scout Troop out to Hoegees Trail Camp every year since it has creek water during the summer and trail provides lots of shade. There are lots of bugs (and therefore bats as well) in the camp so mosquito nets are recommended. It is a great trail camp to rest before a hike up to Mt. Zion or on your way up to the falls. BEAR ACTIVITY WARNING: We have been visited by bears in this campground in the past; however, this year a momma bear and her two cubs came down three times during our trip. Almost as if they were being called by a dinner bell, the bears showed up at 12 p.m., 7 p.m., and again at 5 a.m. Even though our Scouts had placed their food in the bear box provided (by the way, there is only one 2'x2'x4' box for the 14 campsites) and strung up their backpacks in the trees, the bears were experienced enough to know how to pull on the paracord to try and rip the backpacks from the trees. Although they were unsuccessful in pulling any packs down during any of their visits, an unfortunate group of campers -- who had cooked and kept their food inside their tent -- had to ditch their tent in the middle of the night as the bears moved in and decimated their campsite. The bear has obviously been around this area a long time and knows hikers and backpackers are often careless enough to leave their left-over food and trash behind for her to collect. Remember to pack anything that has a scent in the bear box (including deodorant, wipe clothes, etc.) and pick up your trash!

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Raymond Bitner
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Really nice hike. The campground is rustic and serene. I was there earlier this week and was visited by a mama bear with her two cubs and they hung around longer than I wanted in the middle of the night. Be careful with your food and use the bear boxes.

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