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Incredible hike. DO NOT TAKE OLD ARMY PASS! It is not mainted at all. Take new army pass and then follow the cairns to the summit

hiking
19 hours ago

Very hard. My first high summit. I found it very steep and hard to breathe at the top and I am in good shape. The views are not great but worth doing. I liked the views about halfway up the hike better. Overall it took us about 12 hours and 22 miles. Worth doing for sure.

Side note:

Old army pass is safe. Our group mistaked old army pass for the break between the two mountains by the last lake when you reach 3 or 4 lakes in a few minutes. I absolutely do not recommend going up this. Take the real trail on old army pass and you will be safe. I was absolutely terrified. Rocks came sliding down and the sand was unstable on what may seem like a very steep trail but it is not a trail.

hiking
2 days ago

Completed as a day hike 10/31/2018. Took about 6 hours up and 4.5 hours down. (avid and fit hiker, filtering breaks only) As the previous review stated, there was no snow on NAP. There was patchy snow on OAP between the last lake and the top of the pass. I had spikes ready to go but didn't use them. While an easier hike overall, the last mile of this trail before the summit is harder than any one single mile of the Mount Whitney Trail. I'll type up a proper review soon.

hiking
2 days ago

Probably one of the most gratifying hikes in Yosemite because of the panoramic views on Glacier point, and stunning views of the valley at every hairpin. In terms of difficulty this is a solid hard. There are steep switchbacks on the way up and slippery gravel on the descent. We took 3 hours up and about 2 down. Started at 930 and back at 430. Had a blast!

hiking
5 days ago

Awesome hike!!! Tons of switchbacks with great rewarding views from glacier point. Ended up being over 9miles 4.6 each way. Hit it early!!

hiking
8 days ago

We hiked up to the glacier point which was a great hike with even greater views !
We had lunch on the beautiful glacier point and hitchhiked back to the village because we don’t like in and out trails that much. It was a perfect day.

9 days ago

amazing hike. took 2h to ascend & 3h to descend. would highly recommend hiking poles on the

hiking
12 days ago

Great views of interesting rock formations and really unique trails.

I could have been in better shape. Great views of the valley. I would not suggest this for the novice. No special gear needed when it’s dry. No food at summit on October 30th.

hiking
14 days ago

I hiked it in a day on 10/27/2018, taking about 13 hours car to car - I hiked via New Army Pass and saw no snow on the trail - there did not appear to be snow on Old Army Pass either. The hike was long and difficult but the views were beautiful. Make sure to bring plenty of food, water, layers, and willpower.

backpacking
21 days ago

I started this loop from onion valley and did it counterclockwise. I believe it is a harder route starting from the eastern Sierra side, which added an extra 10 miles or so, but the hike up and over kearsarge pass is well worth the extra mileage.

It took 4 days at a relatively moderate pace to complete the loop. My last day was only a six mile day so it is definitely possible to do it in 3 days starting from onion valley.

Mosquitos weren’t too bad in late July though I’ve heard that they’re horrendous earlier in the season. Bugs other than mosquitos were a nuisance so I highly recommend a bug net around your head which I wore half the hike.

There are plenty of people on the trail with pct and jmt hikers making their way on the eastern parts of the loop.

Visually stunning.

IMPORTANT EDIT:

"To get to the trail you can start at the Fountain Place Trailhead and follow the Armstrong Pass Connector trail to Armstrong Pass, then take a LEFT (not a right) on the Tahoe Rim Trail to begin the ascent of Freel Peak."

hiking
26 days ago

We did this trip counter clockwise from Oct 5-12. We tacked on a few side trips including Kearsarge Lakes and 60 Lakes Basin. We had one snow storm the day before doing Glen Pass but we just delayed our ascent a few hours until the sun had melted the pass on the south side and then things were not that bad. It was spectacular. I would recommend spending at least one day at Rae Lakes, it is the jewel of the hike. Water was available along the entire trip except for the ascent up Glen Pass. I carried 1 liter of water on me the entire trip and it worked well for me. Bring warm clothes as several nights got down into the teens. We saw several bears but they all kept their distance from us and we had no negative encounters. Bugs were almost non-existant but we did see 4 different snake species including a rattlesnake the first day hiking in. This was definitely a worth while trip and I will do it again.

This is an excellent trail. It's very strenuous, but the scenery is amazing and the trail is very well maintained and marked. I never had a problem losing the trail. The actual hot springs are hard to find, and are considerably off the trail. Make sure you have the AllTrails app downloaded on your phone and you can find them from people’s recordings.

This trail is amazing the sand will definitely take its toll on the legs. I recommend checking the tides before even getting your permit. The second impassable is slippery even at .2 to 1 foot there are parts will you will be walking on like tide pools.

There are plenty of places for water
Cooskie Creek is definitely campable and had amazing views

Truly incredible backpacking trip made more exciting by the challenge of managing schedules around the tides which make the trail impassable for stretches at a time. All different kinds of undeveloped coast for your enjoyment and it really did feel “lost”. Most days we saw only 4-6 people and no one else slept at the same campsites as us. It is busier in summer, we went at end of September when they limit permits per day to 30 instead of 60 and which is close to the rainy season so we got sprinkled on a bit the last day. I would do it again in a heart beat!

I strongly disagree with people who say the hike is the hardest hike they’ve ever been on - I would argue they likely have little to no experience backpacking in The West. I wasn’t even sore when we finished the trail. As someone who has summitted many 14ers including Whitney and also backpacked most of Yosemite, this was more mental challenge and less physical than the others I mentioned. Only about 5 miles of this trail is a typical trail. The rest is packed sand, fluffy sand, pebbles, boulders, or some kind of lava rock. Trekking poles are a must if you are prone to rolling your ankle (or just want to move quickly without fear of losing balance on boulder fields). You will need to think about where you are going before you take each step most of the way.

I think anyone in moderate or better shape can handle this trip but give yourself an extra day or two so you aren’t in a time crunch and tempted to take risks with the tide. The trail is truly impassable in 2 stretches and there is no where to wait it out if you are between campsites - you will be swept out to sea and die. So... be smart and err on the safe side. Rule of thumb is be out of impassable zones 2 hrs before high tide and wait until 2 hours after as there are sneaker tides that shoot up occasionally as the tide goes out. We would get up at 6am, hike until 2 hours before high tide and set up our tent at a campsite for a nap, cook a hot meal and pump water for that four hour window and then hike until dark once it was safe to continue.

The first 4 miles and last 4 miles are the toughest because it is soft sand that your feet sinks into so it takes a lot of effort, esp with an extra 35 lbs of backpack. I had no sleep the night before as I drove up from SF after midnight and was ready to turn around a mile or so into Mattole Beach but I am glad I did not. The worst of it’s the very beginning or the very end.

If you’re thinking about doing it, you should. Note permits can be a challenge so apply sooner than later!

my wife and I just got done going up and down. went up at 1145a got there at 245p. stayed up there and enjoyed the views for an hour. headed down, that took about 2 hours on the dot. mosquitoes were waiting for us, but walk fast to the base camp restaurant to refuel. we dont hike hardly at all but first time in Yosemite we wanted a challenge and the thrill of accomplishing this. went through half a gallon of water, sunscreen was a good idea as well. bring snacks for the top!

You need a high clearance vehicle to navigate the dirt road to the trailhead. Good trail with nice views of Lake Tahoe.

1 month ago

Stunning hike, hardly a dull moment anywhere on this trail. We did the loop clockwise in 4 days camping at Upper Paradise Valley, Middle Rae Lake and Junction Meadow. Would have spent an extra day at the Rae Lakes if we had the time. We went just after the permit season ended and the weather was perfect but did get cold at night. No crossings and very few bugs. Abundant access to water for most of the trail except the Glen pass area. Highly recommend.

1 month ago

Summit date: 10/1/2018

Langley is a test of your commitment. As a ‘fourteener’ there’s not a whole lot to look at and sometimes it feels like a barren moon surface. BUT, it’s a great test of stamina, and anything but boring and much less travelled than Whitney...so if you enjoy solitude and semi private trail blazing, give Langley a try!

We hiked in from Horseshoe Camping Grounds to Cottonwood Lake #3 and setup base camp. The hike was 8 miles, 1,400 ft elevation gain and took about 6 hours with full pack. .

Next day we set out for the summit under great weather conditions. From Cottonwood Lake #3 via Old Army Pass and back to camp for a round tip of 10.5 miles, roughly 10 hours with a 3,100 ft elevation gain. The trails are hard to follow on the way up once you emerge from Old Army rim, the elevation gain continuous and unrelenting. Follow the cairns, it’s your best bet. Make sure you travel light and keep your pack under 20 lbs or under if possible and do your best to take 3 liters of water to hydrate. Weather rolled in and we descended quickly to miss cloud cover and the first new storm system for Souther Sierra’s. By the time we left the next day, rain was coming down moderately with winds picking up.

The hike out of the lakes is always a butt kicker the next day after the summit, so rest up! Make sure to remember which lot you parked in...we had to play ‘find the car’ on the return as I originally thought we parked at the Cottonwood Lakes campsite! After a tough summit and long hike back, looking for your car weighed down with a full pack is not what you want to do.

All-in-all, Langley is a moderate-to-hard summit with great views of Kings Canyon and the Sierra’s Camping out in the Cottonwoods doesn’t get much better.

backpacking
1 month ago

WARNING: this trail is NOT 37 miles. NPS has accurate mileage information: https://www.nps.gov/seki/planyourvisit/rae-lakes-loop.htm

hiking
1 month ago

Langley is kind of a grind and not really that interesting. Definitely wide panoramic views at the top though.

The standout on this walk are the lakes. I was at Rae Lakes just the weekend before and these hands down blow it away.

Skip the grind and just spend some time at the lakes!

backpacking
1 month ago

Did the loop from 9/26-9/29. Gnats were a pain from 5,000-7,000ft. Save yourself endless swatting and bring a head net.

Bring your hiking poles and hiking shoes!! I brought mine even though I read here that you shouldn’t and I’m glad I did. so many people commented they wish they had poles. This trail is not as bad as upper Yosemite falls. Made it up in 2hrs 20 minutes but it took me longer to Get down probably because I yielded to so many coming up later in the day. Beautiful views for sure. 8am start was perfect.

hiking
1 month ago

I did just the down portion of this hike. I was driven up to glacier point and enjoyed the wonderful view of half dome, north dome, Yosemite falls, and the valley floor. The trail was a strenuous walk down. It’s rocky and can be a bit slippery in spots with sandy rock on top of the “paved portion.” There were great views of El Capitan and the cathedral rocks, as well as Yosemite falls on the decent.

Spectacular!! Spent 3 unusual days on the trail, starting at Roads End where we were told we couldn’t go clockwise around the loop. At that time, we felt like it wasn’t a big deal but it definitely changed the trip. After many conversations with other hikers we discovered Counter has a much steeper incline with several switchbacks on your 2 day journey to Glenn’s Pass, whereas Clockwise is still up hill the entire way, but the incline is more gradual. We hiked Day 1 from Roads End to Junction Meadow, around 10 miles steeply uphill and it kicked our butt pretty good. Saw a rattle snake on the trail which was pretty cool. Met a lot of really cool hikers of all backgrounds. It was a challenging hike with many rewards. Day 2 we had a shorter day as my partner was beginning to experience the effects of altitude and we made it to Charlotte Lake around 2 pm to camp for the night. I highly recommend this beautiful spot. Unfortunately throughout the night my partner’s symptoms worsened so we had to get up early and head the 17 miles back down to Roads End. I can say heading down this side of the trail was amazingly beautiful! All in all a great 3 days and because I wasn’t able to make the summit and swim in Rae Lake, it is a great motivation to head back next year for round 2.

backpacking
1 month ago

We did the loop in clockwise direction in 3 days and 3 nights. Would have been really tough the other direction. Wish we had spent longer at Rae Lakes, it's really a magical place. We went in September right after quota season ended. They now have self-issue permits. The climb was reasonable, good footing in terms of traction, so trekking poles are probably unnecessary, but it did vary from sand-like gravel to boulders. Trail was always obvious. We encountered people every 3 miles or so, more at campsites obviously.

Temperature was in 80s during the day and quite hot in some of the areas without shade. Dropped to 40s at night, pretty chilly with wind. Sun went down behind the mountains around 5:30 and went up around 7. No precipitation and only saw a couple small snow patches around Glen Pass. Bugs were active the first and last 3 miles of the loop towards Roads End.

Bear containers are a must. We encountered 4 who were easily spooked by yelling and waving arms. Didn't see rattlesnakes.

No campfires above 10,000. Recommended campsites: Upper Paradise, Rae Lakes, Junction Meadow.

We had 1L of water per person with us as you have easy access to a stream or a lake almost the whole time. We had Purinize drops and Lifestraw.

backpacking
1 month ago

Gorgeous! We were a group of 4 and we did the clockwise loop in three days and two nights.

The first day we did 16 miles from roads end to woods creek (all gradual uphill). We had a bear in our camp at night trying to get into nearby bear canisters.

Second day we did 14 miles from woods creek to Charlotte Lake. The Rae Lakes area was breathtaking and Glen Pass was a killer!

Last day we had 16 miles to get to roads end but luckily all nice and gradual downhill.

We all would recommend that you actually did this in 4 days and 3 nights instead. This would have give us more time to just chill and enjoy the beautiful nature.

Enjoy!

hiking
1 month ago

I did this on 22nd September. Started late around 11:30 AM. Took 4 hours for ascent and 3 hours for decent. Terrain is treacherous, hiking poles don't help well due to uneven grounds. Switchbacks sometimes seem never ending. Yosemite waterfall was dry, so the wall looked plain and dull. The valley view was spectacular but never changing. You will reach a point where you will see half dome and that's more than half way done. Bring plenty of water for one way like 2 liters as at the top you can refill it. Get good shoes with traction as the terrain is slippery due to gravel and sand. Very challenging hike with rewarding views throughout. If you are starting late, please get bug spray as after 5-6 PM, the biting flies won't leave you, I promise. Nevertheless, I will definitely be coming back next April to do the same when the water peak off is high. Can't wait.

22nd September was free national park day and the crowd at glacier point was crazy.

backpacking
1 month ago

We did AP more or less as shown on this map as a 3 day trip, camping 2 nights at lake 3 (9/20-9/21). The AP trail is shorter with less elevation gain than NAP. Not a mistake. Three days was a relatively relaxed way to go, but even so, the summit hike was not easy. We took a more boldery rout to the summit on the final section, skipping some of the deep sand if you followed the big cairns all the way up. This had its own challenges though - and we did follow the cairns on the way down. We saw four bighorn sheep on the the way back, and marmots here and there, sunbathing on the rocks. It was great to be back to camp on day 2 with plenty of time for a chilly plunge in the lake and to enjoy the afternoon and evening rather than packing up and slogging it back to the parking lot. Overall a great trip!

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