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on Bear Wallow Trail

10 days ago

We went down the Reno trail then east on the Bear Wallow trail. About 4.5. Left a bike at the begging of Bear Wallow to ride back to the car. The trail down was easy to follow but be careful the trail back up to FR 25 is very hard to find. Glad I brought the GPS.

It is actually beautiful. I went this am, late start. Turned around after a bit. On trail 45 min. Came back to my car & rear window smashed. Items stolen from car. Police said several cars were hit. At sunrise & another trailhead.

Really too bad

Beautiful canyon on the way in and really nice views from the top. I saw 5 other hikers on my hike that started at 5 PM on Friday afternoon. 75% of the way was shaded and a nice breeze was blowing which brought the temp down 10 degrees or so from 108 when I started out. The 1000' foot climb up is a lot easier than comparable hikes around the valley.

A wonderful, moderately difficult, non-technical hike so close to Scottsdale! We started at 5am and caught the sunrise on our way up - the views from the top are incredible. Highly recommended.

Love this trail and it''s not as traffic as other trails I go to.

Like this Trail, best to get an early start this time of year. A lot of the Trail is vertical inclines. Good workout!

MY GPS TOLD ME THIS HIKE WAS 11.6 MILES NOT 7.5 MILES. The elevation gain was also about 2600 feet.

Hiked down into the gulch and back up. It took a little over 5 hours. When parking at the summit, head north on the road past the gate, and immediately after the first comm tower, turn left onto the service road. When the first split comes, take a left for Lemmon Rock Trail south. Take that for the first 3.5 miles to where it splits and the train begins to go north-east, or south-west. Take the southwest route until it dead ends into Mount Lemmon Trail #5, and continue north.

The drive up to Cibecue from Tucson is quiet a long drive. But these falls are more than worth it. You must purchase your tribal pass prior to going and the pass is per person. The fee is a little steep IMO. The trail is very easy to follow and offers multiple creek crossings to help cool you off if you are getting too hot. When you make it to the falls there are multiple areas for you to lay your stuff out and relax. But remember to pack out what you pack in.

Nice terrain and inclines. Amazing views, worth it for sunrise. Got there at 4:55 on a Saturday to 1 other cars. Full parking lot by the time we left

1 month ago

This is mostly a deer path and not a trail. It is blocked and obscured by fallen trees at least every 100 yards slowing progress to 1mph or less. The photos added here are not good representations of this trail. If you must go here for the solitude keep to the first 2.5 miles as there are a few old campsites. A GPS device is a must. We would not recommend this trail.

One of my favorites!
2 things you need to know.
1- it's rough driving to get there, but the road from Roosevelt lake is much smoother and shorter than the one closer to Phoenix. you need clearance, 4 wd isn't necessary but helpful
2- the last run is very steep and dangerous, careless hikers above you may drop rocks and people die from falls. but it's very very doable. just be aware.

additionally, I know I would get grief for this, but I hike off trail to get down. on your decent, before you get to the steep drop, I turn down toward the parking lot. it's loose dirt in some areas and I would guess if there's leaves on the trees you might lose your bearings. but it was an excellent decision for us as we were running out of sunlight, we beat others down while had left the summit 30 minutes before us.

Awesome trail! I went at 6pm and saw a total of 5 people there and back. Great scenery in all directions!

Beautiful hike from start to finish. Although I was very disappointed in a few hikers before us who seem to have left their trash and clothing along the way. Just a reminder to always pick up what you bring in. Other than that, the sights were breathtaking. This has to be my favorite hike so far. (and yes, don't forget to buy your permit!)

Went about a month ago and the hike is easy and beautiful. Rangers definitely check for permits, so make sure you get yours online. Also, there is a dirt road that is pretty rough, make sure to bring a suitable vehicle. Well worth it!


Also received a 50 dollar ticket, the ranger says it is closed until further notice and he said they may never open it up again. DONT GO HERE!


Amazing trail and waterfall... but just posting that this trail is currently CLOSED due to fire restrictions. We were still able to purchase a permit at Sportsman's Warehouse in Phoenix, but the area IS closed and is being monitored by the White Mountain Apache Tribe (and they WERE ticketing - mostly hikers coming off the trail without permits, not so much those of us with permits as we had had difficulty finding this closure information anywhere). Below is the news page of the tribe, and a contact number to call and see if the trail is open. They said that this is the most reliable way to know when area is closed / reopened.



The views are beautiful!! However, just because dogs are allowed on the trail, I would not say it is a dog friendly trail. Our 80 pound dog who has hiked with us across the country, needed to be picked up and lowered back down to get over some of the boulders. Her paws became cut and deeply gouged by the riverbed rocks. We felt horrible after bringing her there because she couldn't walk. You may lose cell service just prior to the turn off, leaving GPS useless. The brown wooden sign with yellow lettering is not easily seen from the main roadway, which left us driving past it. Just know, that when you get to the bottom of the Salt River Canyon, you need to turn into what appears to be a parking lot, but is actually the correct road. It is a poorly maintained dirt road down to the trail. A vehicle with some ground clearance may be your best bet. The trail itself is not well marked. It crosses in and out of the river. With all of that said, it is still an absolutely beautiful, remote, hike, and the waterfall at the end is breathtaking!

Incredibly beautiful trail but All Trails messed up big time on this one. Just read Cati Piorkowski’s review from 2017. She explains perfectly. Basically, this is 12.6 miles and *difficult*, not 7.8 miles, nor moderate as stated here. That’s two major errors. Folks are planning trips around the info provided here. This hike takes the better part of the day to complete. We ran out of water and, ending with the western portion of the loop, the incline was so steep and so tough. The fact that it was a June afternoon didn’t help, but I’m young and athletic and my body was just beat after this hike. In the summer, start at dawn and carry at least two liters H2O.

Hiked it during the day and then again 6 hours later to catch the eclipse a few months ago. If you get towards the top late in the day to see the sun start to set the view is best around Phoenix IMO

The site is.


Got the permits online, only had to show the tenant the email/receipt on my phone.

Great hike even in the heat. The afternoon sun shades the canyon.

If you need a permit, call ‭(928) 338-4385‬. If you’re located in Phoenix, Sportsman’s Warehouse sells the permit, (480) 558-1111‬

Did this trail a yr ago and damn it’s a hard trail but so well worth it,, sad there was no water running like last yr!!

Great trail, but definitely longer than listed. Be sure to have extra water and sunscreen this time of year (June) as there are some long stretches without shade and some steep inclines. Views are stunning.

Drove all the way up and the pay station in the parking area is non existent. The online link is broke. How do you get a permit to be allowed to view and hike in nature! Pretty irritated

The website for permits is expired. Does anyone know where to get a permit?

Please please please clean up your trash! Don’t leave a bunch of garbage! Great trail a lot of water crossings wore keen river shoes and had no blisters or scraps from straps. You will have to drive through water to get to the actual trailhead so having a 4x4 is helpful. Saw some small cars parked before the crossing but not much room for people to pile up their cars there.

Though the entrance cost is up there, it is 100% worth it. During the hike you constantly criss cross through the river so you may be tempted to wear thin water shoes but don’t! I made that mistake and I regretted it. But other than that, it is one of the best hikes you can take in the valley.

on South Bass Trail

2 months ago

This is a breathtaking way to experience the Canyon and miss all the crowds, but you're going to have to work for it. A wisely operated high-clearance, two-wheel drive vehicle can make access to the trailhead. Plan on spending two hours + or - 30 minutes on the dirt road heading out and back. Six hours down and seven to eight coming out are reasonable time estimates for fit, experienced backpackers with base pack weights of less than 20 lbs without water. As noted elsewhere, cache water on the Esplenade, (Immediately before dropping down toward Bass Canyon is a great place.) One gallon per person will get you back to the trailhead in hot conditions. We did this hike with daytime highs on the river of 100 degrees and are Phoenix heat-acclimated. I would NOT recommend doing this hike in 80+ degree river temps if you are not used to hiking all day in the heat, as you will find no shade during most of the day. When you get first sight of the river on the way down, start looking for an old fireplace ruin on the left side of the trail. When you reach it, turn right and drop steeply down to the river. There are several beach sites to choose from for camping. Mind the ants and the cold water, and guy out your tent to keep it from blowing into the river. 5 AM is a fine time to start heading back out if you're expecting heat. The last two hours of the hike in are the hardest of this trip. If you can make it down, you can make it out. The load on your feet and legs will feel different going uphill compared to down. Trekking poles and a light-as-you-can make it pack are a must. A practical trip plan might be to drive in and hike down to the Esplanade on the first day, hike to and camp at the river on the second day, then hike out and drive home or camp at the trailhead on the third day. Breaking up the descent would take a lot of stress off of your knees and eliminate any question of ability to make it to the river in one day. For reference: We're in our mid-40's, are reasonably fit and have a lot of backcountry experience. This hike is not for unguided beginners.

It was a very beautiful hike throughout, the cost was a little pricey compared to most and there was a ranger there to make sure the cars going in had their permits per person. There are not many trees along the river that are big enough for ham-mocking so if you decided to do that pick a spot before the waterfall to come back to. There were people jumping from pretty high up which was nice as long as you jump to the center. The water was warmer later in the day around 3 which was nice to get in and take pictures since it was freezing cold when we got there at 12. Very nice for a day picnic and hike great for a little swim spot too. Wouldn’t mind coming back to relax here. Wear your water shoes for the hike you cross the creek all the time and save the socks and tennis for the drive home. :)

Beautiful hike! In and out of water throughout. Easy. The waterfall is gorgeous! Does cost $30 per person. Purchase online.

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