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Hiked in late August 2018, connecting the North and South loops to make it a proper loop and get more scenery (GPS track said 18.2 miles total). Connecting North and South requires walking about a mile through town at the end, but I think very worth it (didn't find an AllTrails page just for that exact route, but started with the North trail described here). Started ~7am, took 9 hours total / ~2mph. Under 30, relatively fit but no elite athlete, found the elevation more challenging than the distance coming from sea level. Carried 3L of water, could have use a little bit more.

Views are stunning, and having connected the two loops I'd circled the entire canyon by the end of it. Highly recommend.

Beautiful view well worth the hike, not for beginners.

Fantastic hike! Not the hardest one ever but still moderately challenging with an incredible view of Las Vegas at the top! If your ever in the area, make this your first stop!

10 days ago

hard but rewarding! the waterfall at the end is frozen in March

2 hours to the junction with Mt Griffin than 2 hours to the summit. I started with blue sky and on the way back the ice rain hits me. It lasted for 90 minutes. So my way down was very fast. I complete the track in 6 hours and 30 minutes.
I had a small headache due to the altitude. Easy trail to follow, just walking.

Wow. The movie-set-looking creepy forest near the Raintree is out of this world.

this is a difficult trail with some areas of slippery gravel and rock scrambling. There are a lot of trail markings via spray paint, but still easy to wander off trail in certain spots. Although, heading in the right general direction, any path you pick will get you there. The view of the Valley on one side and the park on the other are worth the journey.

Absolutely fantastic hike. I wanted to do this last time I was in Vegas but didn't get a chance -- I did this time. The hike states it's 16 miles out and back and using AllTrails record I logged 9 out and 9 back. My overall move time was just over 7 hours, but I did pause and spent 30 minutes at the summit, and 20 minutes watching an awesome sunset on the north side of the trial.

Just as you'll see from the chart the hike start of with a decent incline from the get-go, tapers off for a couple miles then you hit the switchbacks which kick your butt. It wasn't until I hit over 11,000' I started to feel the altitude kicking in, but it certainly did. I started to get mild leg cramps, sausage fingers, etc. I paused for a couple minutes and hydrated, they proceeded to the top. The hardest part in my mind was the heading down. The switchbacks weren't too bad, but the last 5 miles just never ended.

I got a late start and left the parking lot at exactly 1:00 PM, I didn't get back to the car until 9:00 PM, so 8 hours in total. Once that sun went down, it got pretty dark out on the trail and the last 4 miles was a stealth mission using a headlamp.

Fortunately, the trail is very well defined and easy to navigate. That said, at about the 5-mile marker coming down there are a couple spots you can stray off course and end up at a steep drop-off.

I'm a pretty active guy and doing something exercise wise almost daily. One thing for sure is that this trail kicked my as5. Likely more to do with the altitude than distance, but still did nevertheless.

Awesome trail, highly recommend if you get the opportunity to. The parking lots get full quickly at the bottom --though interestingly enough I saw literally no one on the north trail after the first mile.

PA girl, first time hiking on the west coast and decided to challenge myself to a more difficult rated hike. This trail was amazing! Awesome views! Starts off pretty mellow, but by the midway point there's some scrambling. Get to the top, take it all in. Little shade, take it while you can! Overall, not a super difficult hike. Best hike I've ever accomplished. Hardest part was the descent because at some points, the trail is hard to follow. Markings are faded. Also, small stones/pebbles make it challenging as well. Super easy to slip on the descent. Watch your step!

For those of you who are used to east coast weather and/or humidity, the most challenging part is gauging hydration status. So, just keep drinking! I finished 100oz of water and that still wasn't enough.

Great hike, not as difficult as I thought it would be but still challenging, especially going up hill as we were approaching the summit, since the ground was not as sturdy. Have the proper attire for a dessert environment, long pants and hiking shoes to protect from the dessert plants and bushes. Keep hydrated and enjoy the great view of the canyon and Vegas from a distance.

Very tough. Stopped at raintree, so we didn't do the last bit. Still great.

This trail is awesome! I love working my way up during sunset so you can see it set way out in the west, and watch as all the lights of Vegas turn on. It’s a good idea to bring a headlamp if you’re doing this. One thing is that without fail I will tumble on the way down at some point. The gravel is pretty loose and it’s hard to anticipate which rocks will roll down the steep face with you on top of them. 5 stars, always recommended.

I've done this trail a few times and taken new people to it and they all love it, for the work out and especially the amazing views on both side at the peak

Hike is harder than you would expect. Go up there for sunset and then sit and watch the city light up. Beautiful night views.

1 month ago

This trail goes is incorrectly mapped and goes further than raintree. Raintree is the tree that stands over the junction with Mummy Spring trail. I was a little confused how this could have a harder rating than Mummy Spring when it is 9/10ths of Mummy Spring. After you pass the bald spot, be sure to take the switchbacks nice and slow. Well trafficked, amazing views, be sure to check the forecast during monsoon season though, storms and lightning are pretty much guaranteed if moisture is around (July-September).

The views are so awesome! Before the switch backs you can see Lake Mead!

A grueling uphill but worth it! Great hike to escape the heat of the city and see some incredible Flora.

1 month ago

I would say this was a moderate to difficult trail. The switchbacks were quite grueling but the views made it worth it. The Raintree was quite a spectacle to see and the return journey back was quite easy.

1 month ago

Love the openness at about 1.5 miles, and to the west you can see a log cabin. At 2.5 miles is the Mummy Springs junction and Raintree. I continued on the North Loop for the next 1.5 miles downhill to the Trail Canyon/Cave Springs junction. It wasn’t so pleasant to return back up after 4 miles of leg burn!

1 month ago

Beautiful hike, moderate in difficulty. Constant rewarding views along the way — and the Raintree— worth every step to see it. We planned a picnic lunch up there- it was a perfect spot.

Good workout trail. No a very scenic trail though. Lots of loose gravel on trail so watch your footing.

Pretty steep but over all really enjoyable, get there early because it can get pretty hot due to lack of shade

1 month ago

Challenging and fun.. very little shade, but I knew it would given it is Vegas.. Trail isn’t marked too welll...

Incline up the hills weren't to bad but the offroad rocks at the start are a bit of a pain to walk. Only one sign letting you know you're still on the path. Couple of extra markers would be nice. Almost turned around because I wasn't sure if I was on the correct path.

This was an interesting hike for me because there are no blazes to follow. I made it just about 2mi shy of the summit before having to turn back because of lightning and hail. The views on the way up made up for me bailing though. There are a few water caches scattered around in case you run low, but make sure you carry at least 3L. Next I come back I might add on the South Loop as well.

The first half was easy. And very enjoyable. The second half the trail pretty much disappeared. Loose rocks and scrambling. The long slope to the top was very boring and dull. it's a very hard walk bushwacking with no trail. After I was done I could have kicked myself and should have done a more scenic hike around the red rocks. But I made it to the top.

2 months ago

This is a great option for an evening hike now that the weather is warming up. Never too busy, a nice trail that isn't too tough but is variable enough to be interesting. Climbing to the top of the knoll gives a surprisingly good view for such a little hill. Doing the loop and going around the back of the knoll is great, green and cool and with a little bit of water in the stream from the recent rains. Definitely definitely recommend for a nice peaceful hike.

2 months ago

I'm from Vegas and my sister and I would do this hike a couple times every summer. If it's in the summer, though, you should make sure to get an early start because there's no tree cover until you get to the slope of the actual mountain and even then, it's just some short and pretty sparse junipers. The hike is long and the "trail" becomes less defined as you get closer to the slope of the mountain, so my sister and I would usually end up taking whichever route we wanted that given day, often the wash that was still shaded by the peak. The view at the top isn't great just because visibility isn't great, but otherwise, getting to the top feels pretty good. I would recommend this hike to anyone, just make sure you bring plenty of water!

2 months ago

Been a few years since I hiked this trail. It was my first hike in a long time so I found out real quick that I was out of shape (even though I was 7% body fat). I went home exhausted and burnt from the lack of shade and poor preparation, but it was the beginning of a hiking/climbing journey. Since then, I’ve hiked and climbed all over the country!

2 months ago

Really great hike. The switchbacks on the front end are pretty grueling, but they lead to some amazing views — and, of course, Raintree (which isn’t marked, but is right by the sign where the trail splits after you come over the ridge). Temps were great for July — in the 70s when I started at 9:00 — and traffic on the trail was fairly light for a Sunday, especially once I passed the tree. Took me about 4.5 hours, but I made tons of stops for pictures and hung out by the tree for a while.

I’ll be doing this one again! Highly recommend it.

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