This is where i began my trail running and continues to be my favorite. Parking is limited so arrive early. If you are there on the weekend, may take 30mins to wait for a parking spot. however, i highly suggest dropping people/kids off at the parking lot and then parking back by Ross school. It's a .8mile distance from there to the parking lot at phoenix lake. We usually do this anyways so we can make the hike about 5 miles round trip. it's 3 miles from just the parking lot. the single track trail is on the other side of the lake with shade. id say total, there's about 70% shade on this loop.